EJP Corrected as to Jesuit Expulsions from Belgium and Netherlands

King William I of the Netherlands in Coronation

Dear Brother Oetelaer,

My source for the expulsion of the Jesuits from Belgium in 1819 (or rather 1818!) is from an article titled “Startling Facts” extracted from one of the Publications of the Protestant Alliance titled Bulwark, April 1, 1863, which article is reprinted in A Glimpse of the Great Secret Society, Third Edition, (London: William Macintosh, 1872) p. 153. So yes, 1819 is incorrect! The year is 1818 according to this article. Further, the Order was expelled from all public and private schools in Belgium in September, 1826. Thus, your first paragraph is incorrect according to this source. You are correct however that the “Kingdom of Belgium” as it exists today did not begin until 1830 due to the Jesuit-incited Belgian Revolution. Therefore, the Jesuits must have been expelled from Belgium while it was one of the provinces of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands founded in 1815 after the Napoleonic Wars. Sovereign William I (above) knew the Order sought to break up the Kingdom from their stronghold of the French-speaking, Roman Catholic province of Belgium, thus it is quite believable William expelled the Order in 1818 which led to the Jesuit-directed revolt in 1830. From that time on, you are right: the Society of Jesus has never been expelled from its Kingdom of Belgium (1830-Present).

As to the Netherlands, this same source states on page 148 the Order was expelled from “Holland” (which is only one of the seven Low Countries) in 1596; from “The Netherlands” in 1622 (p. 149). No mention is made of 1848 from this source.

Consulting The Jesuits: A History of the Society of Jesus from Its Foundation to the Present Time written by the president of Fordham University, Thomas J. Campbell, S.J., (New York: The Encyclopedia Press, 1921), on page 757 it states that during 1848 and following years Jesuit General Roothaan traveled through “Holland,” I presuming it to be all of the Netherlands. From this source your are right on your second point.

So that you may know that I am in error stating the Jesuits were expelled from the Netherlands in 1848, we read from French author Edmund Paris’s The Secret History of the Jesuits translated from the French in 1975, page 74:

” ‘Wherever liberal-minded people gained victories, the Jesuits were expelled. On the other hand, when the other side triumphed, they re-established themselves to defend the throne and the altar. So, they were banished from Portugal in 1834, Spain in 1820, 1835 and 1868, from Switzerland in 1848, Germany in 1872 and France in 1880 and 1901.

‘In Italy, from 1859 on, all their colleges and establishments were gradually taken from them, so much so that they were forced to stop all activities prescribed in their laws. The same thing happened in the republics of Latin America. The Order was suppressed in Guatemala in 1872, Mexico in 1873, Brazil in 1874, Ecuador and Colombia in 1875 and Costa Rica in 1884.

‘The only countries where the Jesuits lived in peace were the States where Protestantism was in the majority: England, Sweden, Denmark, the United States of America.’ “

Paris takes this quote from H. Boehmer, professor at the University of Bonn, in his Les Jesuits, (Paris: Armand Colin, 1910) p. 285. No mention is made in the above two sources of the expulsion of the Order from the Netherlands in 1848. And in checking my VAIII, page 729, the list of expulsions ALSO does not include the Netherlands in 1848. So I withdraw my statement of 2008 and give my humble apology. I must have been thinking of Switzerland. Thank you for your humble correction as I welcome such whenever I may be in error.

Sincerely in faith,

Brother Eric

Dear Brother Eric,

Graig-Oxley would post a letter on his forum, where you said, that The Jesuits where expelled from Belgium in 1819.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=23479&hl=

This is impossible, because in 1819 Belgium did not exist. Belgium started in 1830 with the Belgian Revolt, 3 years after King William of Orange the 1st would sign a Concordat with Maurus Cappellari, the Prefect of the Congregation of the Propagation of the Faith in 1827. By that Belgian revolt, the Concordat between the Kingdom of the Netherlands and the Vatican was sabotaged. Futher the Jesuits call King William the 3rd a papist hater, as they do Ian Paisley, so I must guess that the Jesuits where expelled form the Netherlands in his reign. [The last explusion of the Jesuits from the Netherlands that I can find was in 1622. EJP] Becauce I have no source for an exact date, but from politics, they seem to be expelled here. I myself live in the Netherlands. Belgium has the Capital of the European Union, Brussels, and is referred to by American Illuminati as the place their money is shipped. It is famous for Marc Dutroux and many other pedophile network doings, so I must conclude the fact that the Jesuits where never expelled from Belgium is the truth. Observing the Belgian politics in for example Kongo, and the fact that Eva Braun, Adoph Hitler’s misstress, was from Belgium, and that the British Anglicans have Ecumenical Masses in Belgium every year, there is much proof that the Jesuits where never expelled there.

Some years ago, I would read lists with countries where the Jesuits where expelled, but could not find the Netherlands there, although it seems they are expelled here. In one of your programs in 2008, I would hear that the Jesuits where expelled in the Netherlands in 1848, so this was 18 years after the Belgian revolt. I do not know where you have this year from, but have been using it in my publications, because for this you are my only source. From the publication of your letter containing nonsense on the Unhived mind, I must say that you are a very unreliable source, because in 1819 Belgium did not exist. Maybe you made a mistake, spelled a wrong number, but if you have made no typo, I must presume that you are using an unreliable source for you letter to Graig Oxley. I would very much appriciate if you would mention your sources, because I know you are telling the truth on the Jesuits, because I can proof it form experience, but I have a very hard time proving this to other people.

Please repair your mistake.

I myself am banned form the Unhived Mind for 3 years, so I can not rectify it, and you are making a fool of yourself again, because every Dutchman and Belgian knows, that in in 1918 Belgium did not exist. And I very much doubt, that Belgium ever expelled the Jesuits.

Thank you,

Brother Oetelaer