Eric

 

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:30 AM

Subject: Re: The Meaning of a Jesuit Training

 

How's it going. thanks for the email. a lot of what you're asking me is on my web site. i think there are different levels of Jesuit trained/utilized individuals. some of the most important stand on our supreme court. now a couple of these weren't Jesuit trained BUT went to Yale law which I have seen as standard proceedings for future heavy hitters in our government.

 

Hilary and Bill met at Yale law. Clarence Thomas and Alito went to Yale law. Clarence was Jesuit trained at holy cross who's motto is IHS (in this sign we conquer) and their mascot is the "Crusader". Alito is a knight of Columbus which will play an important role in the bringing in of fascism in America. (there symbol has a fasces in it for Pete's sake!)

 

Scalia was Jesuit trained at Georgetown and has remained very active speaking at Jesuit universities and has publicly promoted that graduates should stay true to their Jesuit training.

 

Jesuit training is very hard to follow also. it takes a lot of research because what happens is a lot of the heavy hitters will go to Georgetown for different schooling besides just getting a degree. Like John Roberts (chief justice supreme court), Peter pace (just stepped down from head of the military), just to name a couple.

 

what ties these all together and shows their support of the Roman Catholic empire is their attending the Red Mass where they pray to a dead inquisitor (Thomas More).

 

Then you have media personalities which were either Jesuit trained and/or are very close with the Jesuits/Vatican. I have added a lot of info about this in my "Picture Positive" section of my web site. The biggest name in and behind the scenes for the past 40 years has been Pat Buchanan who was Jesuit trained, worked with CIA/OSS Thomas Braden (father of project mockingbird) for 9 years for two media outlets (NBC, CNN). Buchanan was also the head advisor and speech writer for three presidents (Nixon, Ford, Reagan). Buchanan is also a Knight of Malta which for some reason is being kept a secret. the only source I can find on that is in "Who's who in America" 94, 95 96 editions.

 

Knights of Malta are just as important in studying what's going on as studying who are Jesuit trained. Cooper was expounded on this in his book, "Behold the Pale Horse" Egan and Giuliani were given prestigious Knight of Malta awards in 2001. (They are the ones who orchestrated 9/11)

 

Right now. This is where the most important research is going into Vatican intrigue. The Knights of malta and the Constantinian Order. This guy, his name is "Troy" is digging deep into this area and is verifying Zagami's info.

 

Other than that you can keep getting names from my web site. I spent thousands of hours putting my website together and giving the most direct info on my site. As I said. Knights of Malta must be put into the equation as the most important facet in all this. Check out this video  The creator of the CIA was a Knight of Malta and so were the top Nazis and other top CIA. George HW Bush's brother was and Jeb is a 4th degree Knights of Columbus .

 

 

-Thomas Richards (spirituallysmart.com)

 

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/bush.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 12/16/2007 3:19:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, truthandlogic@orange.nl writes:

If not done so, please forward this email to Thomas Richards.

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Dear Mr Thomas Richards

 

I am a moderator of the conspiracy central forum:

 

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?act=idx

 

and I am particularly interested in all the diverse aspects of the equally sinister as powerful

Jesuit Order. Currently I am putting in a lot of effort in trying to procure evidence or proof of

'movers and shakers' who were Jesuit trained.

 

Here are some of the findings I have made thus far:

 

I have found definitive from-the-horse's-mouth type proof of Jesuit training of

 

Bill Clinton (Georgetown SFS'68)

http://141.161.1.43/search?q=alumnus+bill+clinton&entqr=0&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&lr=&client=default_frontend&num=10&ud=1&site=default_collection&oe=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.georgetown.edu%2Fxslt%2F%3FID%3D115

 

George Tenet (Georgetown SFS'76)

http://141.161.1.43/search?q=%22george+tenet%22&btnG=Search&client=default_frontend&site=default_collection&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=default_frontend

 

Timoth Leary (College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts)

http://www.holycross.edu/departments/publicaffairs/hcm/spring07/GAA/gaa8.html

 

Denzel Washington (Fordham FCLC ’77)

http://www.fordham.edu/Campus_Resources/Public_Affairs/topstories_974.asp

http://google.web.fordham.edu/search?site=WWW_Fordham&q=%22denzel+washington%22&output=xml_no_dtd&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&ie=UTF-8&client=fulldom&oe=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=fulldom

 

In addition, I've found (mainstream) Internet references of a Jesuit-trained

 

Joseph Goebbels (?)

http://www.parascience.org/1400yrs.htm

http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Goebbels/Goebbels.pdf

http://prophets-see-all.tripod.com/46459.htm

ftp://ftp.larouchepub.com/pub/recovery.pdf

Edmond Paris - The Vatican against Europe (p251-252)

 

Joseph Stalin (Seminary of Tiflis (Tbilisi, Georgia))

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/dec/13.htm

http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/02/almanac-of-evil.html

http://quotes-of-wisdom.eu/en/author/josef-stalin/biography

http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/05/5076.shtml

 

William J Casey (Fordham BS '34)

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9020615/William-J-Casey

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE4DC153EF934A35756C0A961948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1E1-Casey-Wi.html

 

King Juan Carlos (San Isidro School in Madrid)

http://www.sispain.org/english/politics/royal/king.html

http://www.nndb.com/people/957/000024885/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colegio_Imperial_de_Madrid

 

Fidel Castro (College Lasalle and Colegio Dolores and Colegio de Belén)

http://www.amigospais-guaracabuya.org/oagsg005.php

http://www.notablebiographies.com/Ca-Ch/Castro-Fidel.html

http://www.academyministriesinc.com/CastrosConnections.htm

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,869811,00.html

 

 

Now, I am writing you because I regard you as one of the foremost authorities on revisionist

History in general and the Jesuit Order in particular, and I would like to know from you what it

means for someone to be Jesuit-trained. Does the Jesuit Order keep (close) contact with its pupil

for the entire duration of the pupil's life? Do the Jesuits openly manipulate their pupils after

their education, steering them into certain directions beneficial to the Order on the excuse of

merely 'advising' them? Or do they perhaps do that more stealthily and cunningly, by subtly

providing their pupils with information at which the pupil then decides ostensibly by his or hers

own volition the course in life ideally never suspecting that the Order is subtly steering them

into their preferred direction? How does it pay off to have a Jesuit education? Are Temporal

Coadjutors Jesuit-trained by definition?

 

 

Also I can understand that a person such as Bill Clinton, being a Georgetown graduate, has the

opportunity to build up a Jesuitical network from which he and the Order may mutually benefit 

later in life. However, when it comes to, for instance, a person such as Fidel Castro or Joseph

Stalin who were trained at a very early age, I am more at a loss of imagining how the Order

maintains control of their pupils.

 

Therefore, could you please explain to me, in your opinion and knowledge, how the Order keeps on

manipulating the lives of their pupils especially regarding those who were trained at a very young

age?

 

With your permission, I intend to take up your feedback into the "Jesuit-Trained Movers and

Shakers" forum thread so I would be very grateful if you could back-up your statements with

references to books, articles (preferably internet retrievable) or other forms of media, if

possible. I will be duplicating the forum thread on more forums, among which is the publically

accessible Unhived Mind forums of Craig Oxley, so if you are interested I could provide you with

the URL of the thread once I am satisfied with its informative content and have completed the

forum thread duplication procedure. 

 

Needless to say, I am very interested in receiving clues and names of "movers and shakers" who too

have received a Jesuit training but I haven't listed as of yet.

 

Lastly, I would like to provide you with a little information about me and where I live. I am a 36

year old Dutch guy who obtained a PhD in physics in 2000 at the University of Groningen (NL) but

who unfortunately was forced to abandon, or at least suspend, the pursuit of an academic career

due to a lingering and draining Candida infection. Before I went to Groningen to study physics I

grew up and lived for 21 years in Friesland, a predominantly Protestant province in the north of

Netherlands. I currently live in the province capital of Friesland called Leeuwarden ('Leeuw' is

Dutch for Lion - a familiar (Illuminati) symbol for the House of Orange-Nassau, I don't know what

'warden' means even in Dutch). Anyway, this summer I made a bunch of pictures of some originally

Roman Catholic constructed buildings, built before the 80 years war with Spain, and other

interesting sites and buildings in the city of Leeuwarden. I've given the URLs of the pictures

below. I hope you find them interesting and to me it became apparent immediately judging from the

fascination of the Church of Rome with gargoyles and demonic figurines that it cannot represent

pure and untainted philanthropy indeed.

 

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/13501/2004841326758110763_th.jpg

http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/12103/2004875231284637512_th.jpg

http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/12808/2004858759826760467_th.jpg

"Rijksarchieven" (State-archives)

Old Roman Catholic Building which served to host state-archives ("Rijks-archieven"). I presume the

archives pertaining to the province of Friesland were held here once, while originally under Roman

Catholic rule around the 17th century.

 

http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/13029/2000539180502819546_th.jpg

http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/14139/2003854312124587281_th.jpg

 

http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/11797/2003827705313081047_th.jpg

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/12990/2003886144452759823_th.jpg

Coats of Arms, the first is the provincial CoA belonging to Friesland. The other seems to be a

collage of several regional ones, with each pertaining to a 'major' city of Friesland. The CoA of

the town I grew up in, Stavoren, is also featured and is the yellow-red one with the two staffs

crossing. We even have seem to have a double-headed eagle(?) CoA in our province.

 

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/11460/2004883614776699275_th.jpg

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/14479/2004858451263834389_th.jpg

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/14096/2003824539605346230_th.jpg

 

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/14561/2003849923266120102_th.jpg

 

http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/11469/2003868563502280482_th.jpg

 

http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/14509/2003852637506223582_th.jpg

 

http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/11287/2003808122053950571_th.jpg

 

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/13615/2004849281920831268_th.jpg

 

http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/11473/2004842344146051860_th.jpg

 

 

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/11215/2004809916634377421_th.jpg

http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/12669/2000586401957969065_th.jpg

    * The also quite old building across the street facing the "Rijksarchieven" building. The lion

statuette put on top of the building is symbolic for the House of Orange.

 

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/13185/2000524914825468789_th.jpg

http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/13929/2000544310355575227_th.jpg

http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/13929/2000524951444555564_th.jpg

"Etos" (Drugstore)

Of course, the owl is present once again. And your snake. The names may have some occult meaning.

 

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/14172/2000555808722425255_th.jpg

http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/14191/2000540522165308045_th.jpg

"Jacobijner Kerk" Jacobin Church

Built in the 13th century. Notice the ornamental representation of an apple tree branch with the

orange colored apple-replicas. This seems to me to be referring to the Royal House of

Orange-Nassau (where orange is the color of the royal banner). The House of Orange also happens to

be the reigning Royal House of the Netherlands and is headed by Queen Beatrix. The same queen

whose father founded the Bilderberg Club, was a SS officer and IG Farben affiliate.

This Church, by the way, can be found at a stone's throw from one of two of Leeuwarden's

freemasonic lodges .

 

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/12124/2004869295968308201_th.jpg

"Utrecht"

Contrary to expectation perhaps this photo was not taken in the city of Utrecht but Leeuwarden

 

also. Notice the two seated Egyptian styled lions.

 

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/12936/2004828383554885701_th.jpg

Another pharmacy

I don't know if it's visible but the jar on the RHS features a skull and crossbones. And there you

have your eternal owl present of course. Don't know the meaning of the rooster though.

 

http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/12075/2003824998676999017_th.jpg

http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/12297/2003888480056197462_th.jpg

Yet another pharmacy

I'm sure the lady with the snake twisting around her arm has some esoteric meaning to it.

 

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/12736/2000549163737086058_th.jpg

Coat of Arms of some kind?

 

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/12410/2006377354474840511_th.jpg

"De Friesche Trouw" (The Frisian Loyalty)

One of our two freemasonic lodges. This is the one that is a stone's throw from the Jacobin Church

of which I posted pictures earlier. It is also the lodge I visited last year when they held an

open day. Pretty boring 17th century building and not much stomach turning things inside though.

 

http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/14379/2006349264323711519_th.jpg

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/12841/2006375690127510004_th.jpg

 

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/15321/2006332105199277842_th.jpg

"Patrimonium" (the precise translation escapes me but it's a housing-corporation/association of

some kind )

 

http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/15120/2006301187381236884_th.jpg

"Etos"

The drugstore I posted earlier about in full view

 

http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/12494/2006314679264524926_th.jpg

Railway station

A shot of our railway station taken from the inside. The bat with globe is a pretty scary

(parasitic) association.

 

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/11785/2006374768733365801_th.jpg

Odd Fellow House

 

http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/36677/2004960964040613959_rs.jpg

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/37652/2004990689204259755_rs.jpg

This building acts of a court-building in which I attended a couple of local trials as part of the

education of a school I went to.

 

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/38079/2004906230237851779_rs.jpg

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/38552/2004998385838082795_rs.jpg

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/38505/2004912746056527643_rs.jpg

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/38079/2004948900741747388_rs.jpg

Some guesthouse built by the Jesuit Order when it was still openly active in Catholic Friesland

before the 80 years war. As far as I know, the Jesuit Order is no longer active in Friesland in

this day and age, at least not openly. The establishment of a guesthouse can be regarded as a

result of their charitable facade I suppose.

 

Anyway, those are the pictures I had to present of my current place I live in. I hope you like

them.

 

Please keep up your inspiring work on exposing the Jesuit Order for what it really is.

 

All the best to your Mr Richards,

 

Philip Jonkers